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Tuesday, March 03, 2009
Wright may seek recount.

Bob kiss has been re-elected mayor of Burlington in the 3rd round of Instant Runoff...

1st Round: Wright first, Simpson, Smith eliminated
2nd Round: Montoll eliminated.
3ndRound: Vast majority of Montroll voters vote Kiss for second choice. Kiss elected.

Final round count:
Kiss: 4313
Wright: 4061

*Congratulations and thank you to all the candidates in this election for a great race.
*Congratulations to Ben Pacy on what appears to have been a smooth, uneventful election.

Update 10:00pm- Kurt Wright just told Shay Totten that he has not ruled out asking for a recount, not because he expects the results to be overturned, but as a service to those of us who still have concerns about the process. I fully support this idea, and I urge Kurt to please ask for a recount.

We ought to do it 1) just to make sure that we can; and 2) so that those of us who do have concerns about IRV and election integrity can feel fully confident that our new election process is trustworthy.

I am very psyched and happy that Bob won, but I would feel even better about this election if we did a hand recount, to put the safeguards through their paces. Kurt-please go for the recount. You would be doing us an invaluable public service.

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posted by Haik Bedrosian @ 8:20 PM  
  • At March 03, 2009 8:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Beautiful. Fantastic news! Thanks, Haik!

  • At March 03, 2009 8:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I can't believe Dan showed that poorly. I am soooooooooooooooooooo disappointed. Dan you will be back I know it, keep your head up.

  • At March 03, 2009 8:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    And when you come back, be a little more specific.

  • At March 03, 2009 8:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    yes to the above, and perhaps serve in another elected official first.

  • At March 03, 2009 9:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Wright wins election, this bull shit second and third place voting should be ended now. Kiss is a product of IRV and nothing else.

    Give the people what they want, Mayor Wright.

  • At March 03, 2009 9:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Kiss was favored by more people than Wright. You just have to accept that. Don't worry, Wright can still stink up the statehouse.

  • At March 03, 2009 9:17 PM, Blogger Taylor said…

    But Kiss wasn't favored by more people, he was favored as the second best choice. The most people voted for Kurt Wright, thus he should win. Its not about him being a democrat or republican, its about the voters of Burlington getting the candidate they choose.

  • At March 03, 2009 9:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    If there had been a regular runoff the outcome would have been the same. It just wouild have cost the city more.
    Wright was favored by 32 percent. Is it fair that he should be mayor when 68 percent voted against him? IRV works.

  • At March 03, 2009 9:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Kurt failed to get a majority to vote for him, it's that simple

  • At March 03, 2009 9:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You're both incorrect, whoever you anonymous asses are. Show your selves you ignorant cowards.

  • At March 03, 2009 9:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    On what planet does 32 percent represent a majority?

  • At March 03, 2009 9:33 PM, Blogger Haik Bedrosian said…

    Show your selves you ignorant cowards.

    "Taylor" doesn't tell us anything about you either, you know. You're basically anonymous too.

  • At March 03, 2009 9:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Haik. As far as I could tell, you were the first to report the victory. And your blog was the only place for any in depth information about the mayoral candidates. Quite an accomplishment. Much appreciated.

  • At March 03, 2009 9:43 PM, Blogger Haik Bedrosian said…

    Much appreciated.

    Right back at ya! Thanks for reading!

  • At March 03, 2009 9:57 PM, Blogger Matthew Breuer said…

    Anyone remember when we got round-by-round numbers last time?

  • At March 04, 2009 5:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    In truth, it may have been the third choices of the supporters of the third-place candidate who decided this since anyone who votes Montroll/Smith would have had their third choice counted. The fact is, speculative votes cast with respect to an unknown final two "decided" the election after three rounds of IRV hypothetical legerdemain. It is completely unknown what all voters would have actually done if presented with an actual choice of Wright vs. Kiss.

  • At March 04, 2009 6:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "Anyone who votes for Montroll/Smith would have had their third choice counted." No, they would have had their second choice counted, unless their second choice had also been eliminated.

  • At March 04, 2009 9:14 AM, Blogger Unknown said…

    I hear what your saying.. but as a voter, i would feel a WHOLE lot better with a real runoff election, and not "McVoting". and if its good enough for an office holding election, why not a school bond issue? or a moran plant vote?

    Haik.. Thanks for your coverage

  • At March 04, 2009 9:15 AM, Blogger Unknown said…

    and I agree Kurt should do a recount, AND bring up the legitimacy of IRV as a whole

  • At March 04, 2009 9:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    with a school bond issue or moran plant issue there are two choices: yes or no. There is no need for IRV. In an election with 5 candidate, IRV ensures the a person with 33 percent of them vote is not elected. It resolves the election when the most people are participating, as opposed to a run off when drastically fewer people participate. Plus there is the considerable expense of a separate runoff. Being unsatisfied with the result is not enough of an argument.

  • At March 04, 2009 9:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Surprised at the low turnout esp. after a historic election last November. Although I like IRV, wasn't one of the goals of it to "encourage" voter turnout? Maybe it's too early. Still lots of sour grapes on the vine.

    On another note, how much will Kurt's recount cost the city?

  • At March 04, 2009 9:56 AM, Blogger Unknown said…

    NO. BULLSHIT! There IS a multiple choice for the bond issues! For example:

    School Bond Issue.
    A) Increase By 15%
    b) Increase by 5%
    c) Decrease by 5%
    d) Decrease by 15%
    e) Status quo.

    Give people the choice of either funding the BLOATED school budgets
    by x or y amount OR give them the option of slashing the budget or keeping the same as last time is fair. This gives people the choice of sending the message to the school systems that they are wasting their tax dollars year after year.

    My bitch about IRV has a lot to do with the fact that it will ALWAYS slant to the Liberal base.

    My bitch about school budgets is that whenever they get defeated, all these lib parents raise enough signatures to vote on it AGAIN, and AGAIN, until it passes. That doesn't cost money?

    Same could go with 5 valid proposals for the Moran plant instead of wasting tax dollars on study after study.

    If you are going to tout IRV as a cure all to public opinion. put your money where your mouth is and have it apply to ALL vote-able issues.

    if not, call it what it is. lazy frigging politics.

  • At March 04, 2009 10:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Oh, for god's sake. Go to the board meetings. Give your input there. Organize and get people find people who agree with you. If you can find more people, run a candidate. If there are more people who agree with you than the "liberal base", you get what you want. It's how it's done. Or you can whine on a blog all day long.

  • At March 04, 2009 10:33 AM, Blogger Unknown said…

    or you you can just be lazy and let the 90% of the voters who are stupid/lazy fill in the "runner up" positions, skewing vox populi because "god-forbid" we intrude on their precious schedules of beer swilling or tv watching. in a second run-off election.

    I guarantee that if the numbers were completely reversed between Kurt and bob, the libs and progs would be screaming bloody murder.

    and BTW, I do go to my towns meetings, both DRB and planning boards. and our town meeting are a heck of a lot more democratic than the abomination burlington calls voting.

  • At March 04, 2009 11:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Wow, nice attitude, istech. Is it safe to assume, then, that you speak for Kurt Wright by saying "90% of the voters... are stupid/lazy"? And so the sheep's clothing crumples to the ground...

    Speaking of, your bond proposal above is overly simplistic. Just imagine you are the head of a city department (DPW, Electric, Schools, Airport, etc.) and want a bond. Think you're going to give people the option to underfund your financing needs?

    Perhaps you are suggesting that bond questions should be mandated to provide some sort of scale to voters? In which case, your proposal to micromanage governmental decisions by increasing regulations will surely fall flat among your neo-right peers.

  • At March 04, 2009 1:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ummm, in Alaska it's the right-wingers who are bigger supporters of IRV.

  • At March 04, 2009 11:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    IRV is inferior style of voting in cases where no one gets majority.

    A old-school run-off gives voters another chance to select among two canidates. With IRV you are voting for second among more than two.

    For example if I voted for Smith in a 4-way race and the top two were Wright and Kiss - I should spend my next vote on one of those and not on Simpson or Montroll. End of story. IRV is inferior democracy. Cost of elections is the worst argument I have ever heard when it comes to IRV.

    By the way Haik, you did a service. But now - and I say this out of kindness - you may go back to being irrelevant.

  • At March 05, 2009 12:49 AM, Blogger Haik Bedrosian said…

    You're very kind. Thank you.

  • At March 05, 2009 10:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


    Last time I vote in a mayoral election.

  • At March 06, 2009 5:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Whine ass.

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